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Beginning of an art journey

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 9:22 AM
A couple of days a friend posted this on a note, he was really worried about an art thief, he also mentioned my style was copied, first i was surprised ive even had a style. So decided to look at this person gallery. Images are almost like a twin brother. But luckily im the evil twin brother.


Remorse by solidscorpion69Magic Note by elsevilla

Dangerous pair by solidscorpion69Mage Ninpou by elsevilla

Forever Young by solidscorpion69BAD  the Bonnie by elsevilla

Above the clouds by solidscorpion69Bonnie Kiriban by elsevilla

Puppet Master by solidscorpion69Puffy care by elsevilla

The Widow by solidscorpion69Avatars revenge by elsevilla

Eight legged freak by solidscorpion69:thumb169853281:

Careful What You Wish For by solidscorpion69Eight reasons to not die by elsevilla


So i replied to him that i didnt consider this a robbery. He say why?



Its because we all started in art from there, when i was a kid of 14 years old,  i used to love dragon ball character, and i used to copy goku pose and change some parts, and call it my OWN. We all start copying what we like about something. It can be a hair cut, i can be clothing, it can be the same mecha toy other kids have.


Copying its always a cool way to start, when you dont have a clue were to move, or how to begin?



Never crossed in my mind that one day one will copy my stuff, that  makes me a bit red and happy. It gives me a bit of sense of years behind a desk, in this crazy and mad art road.





But with internet and layers, people use layers to trace on top, or even copy and paste color swatches, and thats when the problem comes.


You will not learn a thing from that.


For example,  i draw 39% body anatomy accurate, because its hard and im not interested in realism, if a guy copies me, he will not get the 39% he will get a 14% when he begins, but if its truly an art thief he will get a 30%.



And thats when the learning curve problem starts.



When i color, i can easily get references on google, and see them, but ive NEVER and i mean NEVER, copy the image swatches to my new drawing canvas, that doesnt mean i dont use similar colors, NO, i try to get same colors but just by looking, in that way i train my eyes  to mimic the color im seeing, that will make my eyes stronger, because if you are walking on the street , then look at the clouds and see a pretty afternoon, i will know what colors my eyes are seeing.


Its the hard way but it works, hard because it takes years to fully understand it, but, by doing this colors are always constant, and not a drawing looking good, and the other one not making any sense at all.


Same goes for anatomy, thats why i recommend to do life drawings, or posemaniacs in pratice. My anatomy its not always perfect, because i tend to not use any reference when i draw, so i dont copy the models pose, they are drawn bad because i cant memorize the body completely. Thats why even i do life drawings, because they are a good exercise and mind refreshing.





So the point its that this ISNT ART ROBBERY, its just a beginner in art, but sooner or later you gotta do your own stuff, will be harder, will be awful, you will hate every minute of it, but in the end you will grow faster.



The soon you start risking, the fastest you will be in your goal, thats the risk of a Walker in this road of art.




But the real trick its copying someone nobody knows, and people will think you are unique, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAMMMUUUUUAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHH im joking, or am i?

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JJShaver Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Imitation is the simple form of flattery...unless china is ripping off your stuff. Great gallery and an excellent read. Thank you.
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
I appreciate your opinion and the way you are taking and choose to deal with it, but it is stealing-ish. :/

They work right off you and your color and composition, and so many that's the key issue. Some are more their own, but others are a little close to be not seen as taking/stealing/borrowing from you a little. But it's nice to see you aren't bothered by it though, so no harm done by him. They are leaning art sure... but a little in a stinky way(maybe not intentional though) and practicing something that isn't that great of a practice. This person should be giving you 'some' credit for their 'inspiration' and work on not working's' closely off others work with out permission. It's probably going to upset people down the line and it's a little dishonest.
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Xaii-Disconnection Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
Your opinion is one to appreciate on this topic. The honesty makes it even better. It has opened my eyes a little bit more, to the art world.

Your art has helped create yet another art-explorer. It is wonderful that you have taken in their art interpretation so happily!

Human nature encourages copying before self-adventure.
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Kitsuru Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012   Digital Artist
They do look similar, but i agree with you! Everyone has to start somewhere.
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una-aberration Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. =)
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luke-crowe Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
If I were to do similar work, with my lack of art skills, I would feel too guilty not to post the reference I used. I find it offensive that this artist used work from Deviantart and does not give credit. It may be legal, but its poor manners in my opinion. Especially when there are comments on his page that suggest that his work is not derived directly from yours.
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
I believe it's starting to border on the illegal... one don't have copyright to a theme and an idea of art. But the art piece itself any original character design and 'close' likeness. Composition well. Some are totally illegal inspiration, other are very close and when you put together HOW many. Elsevilla could probably take it to court if he cared. But since no many was made there isn't anything to win against really. And Els doesn't mind. Which over all is very good of him, but leaving this artists to keep using other work isn't really a good thing. Someone will be hurt by it some time, and it's not a good practice for him to do so. He could really get in trouble some time down the line.

He should GIVE credit at least to be honest and polite when he is borrowing 'heavily' such as in the grey girl, green witch, the lineart and maybe the knight fighting the monster.

Also should get permission too if he's doing this with other artists so closely...
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elsevilla Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I think its more like inspired, i think when he draws more and learn composition he will take his own risks in this art journey.
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luke-crowe Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I may have been a little emotional with that comment. I still watched him, I hope he improves.
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Deckboy Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Wow. What an honor to have someone copy you!! I applaud you for your understanding of the other artist!

I think a big thing to mention here, too is that the other artist is not just copy + pasting your art and trying to sell the art. In fact, only one of those pictures is even for sale as a print, (the first one listed) and that one is arguably entirely different subject matter. Composition wise, and coloring wise, it may be some form of copy, but the subject matter is very different. When viewing the pictures it's rather obvious that they are not done by the same person - unlike how most "art thieves" just download the original picture and do subtle changes. (like change the background or something)

I love your perspective on this issue - totally got me to thinking!
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